1

I've been reading about power supply requirements for RPi and want to learn more about the practical limits in addition to the design limits. What is the power protection circuit (if any) on the micro-USB port, what is the maximum voltage it will tolerate?

I have set up a test power supply (using a bench power supply, 7.5A (18AWG) leads to a micro-USB headshell). So I can see the relatively exact supply details. I've measured the voltage at the RPi micro-USB, and noted a 0.1V cable loss at 5.5V supply, so I believe my test cable can carry sufficient power.

While exploring the under-power situations described in a lot of articles on the web, I've varied the input voltage from 5V to 5.5V (which seems stable), and briefly risked up to 6V without frying the RPi. I am interested to know at what point I can expect smoke.

Improve this question
1
  • If you're interested in powering the Pi safely, (rather than blowing it up), then this math may be of interest. – Dmitry Grigoryev Mar 24 at 9:25
1

The Pi 3 is protected by the SMBJ5.0A over-voltage suppressor, which has a breakdown voltage between 6.4 and 7.1V. So above 7.1V you are guaranteed to trigger the over-voltage protection.

If the protection works as designed, you'll see no smoke: the polyfuse will limit the current to a safe value. However, 7.1V is above the rated maximum voltage of 5V components on the Pi, so there's still a good chance those ICs will blow up before the voltage suppressor has a chance to act.

Improve this answer
5
  • 1
    there's still a good chance those ICs will blow up before the voltage suppressor has a chance to act... That would be my definition of a poor design. – Seamus Mar 24 at 20:59
  • 1
    @Seamus It is, and the never-ending stream of questions which all boil down to "bad power supply" and "current limit of USB ports" is the proof. I really miss Banana Pi which never had power problems, allowed to connect a battery directly to the PCB, and exposed the PSU and battery voltages and currents via /sys/class/power_supply. – Dmitry Grigoryev Mar 25 at 10:03
  • Somewhat off-topic, but don't they still make the BPis? I don't know much about them - are they supported by the maker? – Seamus Mar 25 at 22:12
  • @Seamus They do, and they ever release new boards. Software-wise the manufacturer support was poor even for the first BPis, and I doubt that has changed. You'd be stuck with Wheezy on the Banana Pi 1 unless you learn how to install Debian. And they lost the competitive edge too: the original Banana Pi was several times faster than the original RPi (and only 1.5 times more expensive), but the latest boards are more or less on-par with Pi 4, while they still cost more. For example, Banana Pi M3 costs $150-200 where I live. – Dmitry Grigoryev Mar 26 at 8:03
  • 1
    Ouch! Somewhat similar to my BeagleBone experience. – Seamus Mar 27 at 5:57
1

The Pi is rated at 5.0 ± 0.25V. The PMIC (on modern Pi) has a MAXIMUM input of 5.5V - exceed this at your peril.

The "protection" circuitry consists of a combination of polyfuse, ideal diode and surge limiting diode, which varies on model (consult schematics for detail). The Pi3A+ has no ideal diode.

Schematics for most models are available.

See Raspberry Pi Power Limitations

Improve this answer

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.